Ep. 567: Listeners on Sephora Tweens, Animal Testing & The Week’s Beauty News

The Fat Mascara family is part of the show this week! Jess & Jenn share listener voicemails discussing Sephora birthday parties and tweens wearing makeup. We also talk about proposed legislation in California to ban the sale of “anti-aging skincare” to children. Plus, why is the FDA insisting that sunscreens in America should be tested on animals? We’ll discuss that, as well as Jess’s recent adventure with Fraxel, eyeliners for your (dark) chocolate brown years, and two delightful lip treats.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Fraxel
Dr. Paul Jarrod Frank - Jess’s dermatologist
Isamaya Ffrench
ISAMAYA - now sold at Sephora
Moda Operandi
ISAMAYA Lip Lacq- Maximising Lip Plumping Serum
ISAMAYA Lips Metal- Sheer Metallic Balm

News:
California Bill Would Ban Kids From Buying Anti-Aging Products
Drunk Elephant
Urban Decay
Michelle Phan
U.S. FDA Confirms New Sunscreen Requirements Mandate Animal Testing - article in BeautyMatter
Krupa Koestline - Cosmetic Chemist
Jeff Brown - Senior Scientist at PETA
Vicki Katrinak - Director of Animal Research and Testing
2025’s Trending Eyeliner Flatters Those in Their 20s and 70s Alike
Clinique Cream Shaper Eyeliner - Chocolate Lustre
Bobbi Brown Long-Wear Gel Eyeliner - Chocolate Shimmer Ink
NYX Professional Makeup Epic Ink Liner - Dark Chocolate

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us to tell us about a product you love, ask a beauty question, or share your thoughts on anything we talk about on the podcast: 646-481-8182. Jenn would love your recommendations of a good dark-chocolate-brown liquid eyeliner. You can also text that number or email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Flo: Caudalie Rose de Vigne Fresh Fragrance & L'Oréal Paris True Match The One Concealer
Jenn: Winky Lux Pink Lemonade Lip Balm
Jess: Neen Glisten Up Lip Gloss - Bye

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Celebrity Facials, Lymphatic Massage & More with Aesthetician Vanessa Marc

What do Zendaya, Hailee Bieber, Cardi B, and Sara Sampaio have in common? They’ve all put their faces (and bodies!) in the hands of aesthetician Vanessa Marc, the founder of Vanessa Marc Studio in New York City. She joins us to talk about why models and celebrities love her treatments, the special needs of melanin-rich skin, the benefits of lymphatic massage and Colombian Wood Therapy tools, and her favorite products and techniques. Plus: Why we should all be getting a massage after a long airplane flight.

Vanessa Marc - her instagram
Vanessa Marc Spa - her website
Maderoterapia (Colombian) Wood Massage Tools - 5-Piece Kit for Lymphatic Drainage & Body Sculpting
Dermalogica Special Cleansing Gel
Dermalogica Multi-Active Toner
Dermalogica Daily Microfoliant
Dermalogica Daily Glycolic Cleanser
Dermalogica Dynamic Skin Recovery SPF 50
Murad Acne Control Clarifying Cleanser
Bling Lash - in NYC
Wet n Wild Color Icon Kohl Liner Pencil
MAC Cosmetics

Ep. 566: Lotion P50 Drama, Big Hair, B Corps & The Week’s Beauty News

People are distraught about the discontinuation of Biologique Recherche’s P50 Lotion (1970 version), but Jenn & Garrett have some replacement suggestions. We’re also talking about Jenn’s filler (Garrett approves!); how teens feel about celebrity beauty brands; hair trends at New York Fashion Week; why Dr. Bronner’s is no longer a B Corp (and what B Corp status even means); and doctors taking Ozempic. Plus, Jenn answers a listener question, and we raise wands to a DIY lymph-massage tool and a dupe for a very famous Diptyque candle. 

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Rare Beauty
Rhode

News:
Lacy Redway - hairstylist for Christian Siriano FW2025
Mustafa Yanaz - hairstylist for Collina Strada FW2025
Sonny Molina - hair stylist for Christopher John Rogers FW2025
B Lab
Dr. Bronner's is Dropping its B Corp Certification
Weleda
Ursa Major
Aesop
Davines
Nespresso: Known for Human Rights Violations, Now B Corp Certified - from 2022
Dr. Bronner's Lavender Castile Liquid Soap Body Wash
Dr. Bronner's Sal Suds Biodegradable Cleaner
The Physicians Really Are Healing Themselves, With Ozempic - from The New York Times
R.I.P. to Biologique Recherche’s P50 1970 Toner
Biologique Recherche’s P50 1970 Toner
Biologique Recherche’s P50 PGIM 400
Thayers 2% Aha Exfoliating Toner
Paula's Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant
Pixi Beauty Glow Tonic
Weleda Pore-Refining Toner

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us to tell us about a product you love, ask a beauty question, or share your thoughts on anything we talk about on the podcast: 646-481-8182. Jess is especially interested in hearing about those beauty products you think only you know about. You can also text that number or email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener MJ: Makeup by Mario SurrealSkin 16HR Soft Setting Spray & Paula’s Choice Pro-Collagen Peptide Plumping Moisturizer
FYI: MJ asked about Herbal Face Food & G Beauty Products (not Gee Beauty, a reputable company!)
Garrett: Fascia Blaster Massage Tool
Jenn: Phlur Currant Crush Candle - the Diptyque Baies dupe (shhh!)

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French Girl Beauty with Violette Serrat

Makeup artist Violette Serrat, the founder of Violette_FR, makes the je ne sais quoi of French Girl style and beauty accessible to everybody. She shares her rebellious approach to makeup, the homeopathic skin drops she uses, why skin needs to rest, the key to good “sex hair,” and why eyeshadow looks better when it’s “slowly dying.” This interview originally aired in 2020 and has been re-edited and includes a new introduction. 

Violette Serrat - her instagram
Violette_Fr - her makeup line
Violette_Fr | Yeux Paint in Dieu Bleu
Mün Skin Akwi Purifying Cleanser
Biologique Recherche Fluide VIP O2
Granions de Selenium or Granions d'Or - the homeopathic ampoules (they might not be available in the U.S., sorry!)
Glossier | Cloud Paint - Puff
NARS | Single Eyeshadow - Outremer
Sephora Colorful Shadow & Liner in My Boyfriend's Jeans - discontinued
Milk Makeup Tattoo Stamp in Black Star - discontinued
IGK | Hot Girls Hydrating Shampoo - discontinued
IGK | Hot Girls Hydrating Conditioner - discontinued
Bumble and bumble Invisible Oil Primer spray
Herbivore Sea Mist in Coconut + Sea Salt
Urban Decay Perversion Mascara - discontinued
El Nabil | Musc Blanc Eau de Parfum
Walk Through Walls: A Memoir

Ep. 565: Drugstore Beauty Shopping, Hair Salon Etiquette & The Week’s Beauty News

Jess & Jenn ponder the future this week! We talk more about kids having birthday parties at beauty stores, and then: why beauty shopping at drugstores is so unpleasant; advice for switching hair stylists; layoffs at Estée Lauder Companies; Paulina Porizkova returning to Lauder; navigating trade shows; manicures featuring NFC (Near-Field Communication) chips; glycolic acid as deodorant (and a new version of whole body deodorant); and faux flower arrangements that are especially good for cat owners.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Kids Are Having Birthday Parties at Sephora Now - continued from ep. 564
Jacob Schmidt - Senior Colorist at Sally Hershberger Nomad
What do you think about kids having birthday parties at beauty stores? Call us and share your thoughts: 646-481-8182.

News:
Job Cuts At Estée Lauder, Up To 11% Or 7,000 Employees, After Sales Decline
Paulina Porizkova Returns to Estée Lauder as Global Brand Ambassador
Lancôme
Shiseido
Why Drugstores Still Aren’t Beauty Hubs
Science Corner:
The Microchip Manicure
Chipped Tips | The Devil Works Hard Press-on Nails

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us to tell us about a product you love, ask a beauty question, or share your thoughts on anything we talk about on the podcast: 646-481-8182. Jess is especially interested in hearing about those beauty products you think only you know about. You can also text that number or email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Marina: Charlotte Tilbury | Airbrush Flawless Setting Spray
Jenn: Surface Deep | Anti-Odorant Spray
Jess: Diane James Home | Tres Chic Faux Florals

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Hidden Dangers of the Med Spa Industry with Dr. Kate Dee

Are you risking your health at unregulated med spas? Dr. Kate Dee, author of Med Spa Mayhem and owner of Glow Medispa in Seattle, reveals the shocking truth about America's aesthetic clinics. In this episode, she explains how to identify if a med spa is operating legally; the risks of unregulated treatments; and how lasers, cosmetic filler, microneedling, and IV treatments can go wrong. Plus, she shares her vision for improving industry standards. Tune in to learn how to protect yourself and demand better from the med spa industry.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Dr. Kate Dee
A Manhattan Aesthetician Arrested and Charged with Wire Fraud and Smuggling After Injecting Patients at His Medical Spa with Counterfeit Botox
Woman Falsely Claiming to be a Nurse Injected Fake Botox
A ‘Butt Lift’ from an Illicit Philadelphia Med Spa Sent a Woman to the Hospital with a Raging Infection

Interview:
Medspa Mayhem Podcast - Dr. Kate Dee’s podcast
Med Spa Mayhem: The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly Secrets Of The Aesthetic Industry - Dr. Dee’s book
certificationmatters.org - use this website from the American Board of Medical Specialties to find out if your doctor (or the medical director of your spa) is certified
nursys.com - use this website to look up a nurse and confirm their license status

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Ep. 564: Sephora Birthday Parties, Renuva & The Week’s Beauty News

Garrett joins Jenn to discuss their latest beauty adventures. On the discussion agenda this week: Tweens having birthday parties at beauty stores; a Kiehl’s campaign featuring pubic hair (and the history of the merkin!); body scrubs; bathhouses; perfume-longevity hacks; and a deep dive on Renuva, the newish non-surgical volumizing treatment that’s different than cosmetic filler or fat transfers.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Dove Men+Care Body Scrub
LolaVie
Bathhouse NYC

News:
Kiehl’s Refuses to Beat Around the Bush in Unapologetic Ads
Fur Oil
My Pubic Hair Laser Regret - article in The Cut
Kids Are Having Birthday Parties at Sephora Now
Dr. Dendy Engleman - her instagram

Science Corner:
Renuva - where to find a provider
A New Cosmetic Injectable That Works in a New Way - more info on Renuva
Dr. Haideh Hirmand - her instagram

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Call us to tell us about a product you love, ask a beauty question, or share your thoughts on anything we talk about on the podcast: 646-481-8182. You can also text that number or email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Katie: Penhaligon's | Liquid Love Eau de Parfum
Listener “Maya,” the nurse: Maya Base Perfume Oil
Garrett: Le Labo | Eucalyptus 20
Jenn: Soft Services | Buffing Bar

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The Truth About Kibbe Body Types with David Kibbe

Image consultant David Kibbe found fame in the 1980s with his cult-classic style guide, and now he’s updated and expanded his philosophy with a new book for a new generation. In this interview, he shares how he became a “style mentor,” how to think about developing your own personal style, the history of seasonal color analysis, why he thinks his typing system is so popular on social media—and why most people get it wrong. 

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

David Kibbe
David Kibbe's Metamorphosis: Discover Your Image Identity and Dazzle As Only You Can
David Kibbe's Power Of Style: A Guided Journey To Help You Discover Your Authentic Style
Charles Jourdan
An Introduction to the Kibbe Body Types {Image Identities}
Dorothy Dandridge
Leslie Caron
Strictly Kibbe - facebook group
Max Factor - mua, wig artist, & inventor
Carol Jackson
Perricone Neuropeptide Facial Cream
Lidocaine Cream
Perricone Ultra-Smooth Shave Cream
Aramis
Chanel | Antaeus Pour Homme Eau de Toilette
Canoe for Men Eau de Toilette

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Ep. 563: Before & After Photos, Mood-Boosting Perfume & The Week’s Beauty News

Jenn & Jess welcome FM’s intern, Lexi, to the studio to talk about mood-boosting fragrances and whether or not they work. Before that: How do we all feel about the term “dermorexia”? Plus: Jess shares her adventures in a Parisian flea market; we try an AI-powered skin analysis tool; Coors Light enters the beauty game; one of our listeners gives the best trend analysis we’ve heard yet; we learn how painters clean their brushes; and we Raise Wands to a cuticle oil and a $10 shampoo and conditioner.

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Intro:
Paris Saint-Ouen Flea Market
Marche Venaison Flea Market
Eliane Parfume - the stall where Jess shopped is located at Stand 144, Allee 3, at Marche Vernaison flea market
Anna Sui Dolly Girl Eau de Toilette
Nina Ricci Les Belles Eau de Toilette
Maison & Objet
The Idea of You
Stella By Stella McCartney | Eau de Parfum

News:
Dermorexia: Is our obsession with skincare becoming a disorder?
Coors Light | The Chill Face Roller

Science Corner:
SkinGPT: New tech uses AI to assess skin and predict what you will look like after trying a new product.
Juicy Couture | Viva La Juicy Eau de Parfum
Charlotte Tillbury | More Sex Eau de Parfum - mood-boosting fragrance
Vyrao | Sunrae Eau de Parfum - mood-boosting fragrance
Edeniste | Lifeboost Love Fragrance - mood-boosting fragrance

Raise A Wand:
Homework: Julee need a liquid eyeliner that dries quickly so it won’t transfer onto her lids. can you help? Call us to tell us, or ask a beauty question, share a thought, or tell us about a product you love: 646-481-8182. You can also email a voice memo to info@fatmascara.com.

Listener Brett: The Master's Hand Soap
Jess: Manucurist Nail & Cuticle Oil
Jenn: CeraVe Gentle Hydrating Shampoo & CeraVe Gentle Hydrating Conditioner

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Best of FM: Laura Mercier

This episode is about so much more than makeup. Celebrity makeup artist and brand founder Laura Mercier shares the story of how she found her purpose and the lessons she learned along the way. We talk about her childhood in France; New York City in the 1990s; her work with Steven Meisel and clients like Madonna and Julia Roberts; the iconic makeup products she’s created; dessert; Buddhism; and so much more. If you’re feeling stuck or stagnant, or have the winter blahs, this inspiring interview is a must-listen!

Below you’ll find a list of some of the people, topics, and products mentioned in this episode. If you have any questions (or just want to say hi), reach out to us on Instagram or TikTok or via email (info@fatmascara.com). And please email us voice memos of your beauty questions and Raise A Wand favorites so we can share them on the show. You can also leave us a voicemail to be featured on a future podcast (our phone number in the U.S. is at 646-481-8182).

Laura Mercier
Elle US & Marie Claire - earliest publications Laura worked for
Steven Meisel
Madonna
Laura Mercier Secret Camouflage Concealer
Laura Mercier Tinted Moisturizer Light Revealer Natural Skin Illuminator
Happiness Becomes You: A Guide to Changing Your Life for Good - by Tina Turner
Nars, Charlotte Tilbury, Kevyn Aucoin - makeup artist brands Laura admires
Kevyn Aucoin the Sensual Skin Enhancer
Laura Mercier Eau Gourmande Creme de Pistache
Laura Mercier Eau Gourmande Tarte Au Citron
Laura Mercier Ambre Vanillé Eau Gourmande
Laura Mercier Néroli Du Sud Eau De Parfum
Laura Mercier Petal Soft Lipstick Crayon - 382 Laura
Julia Roberts
SJP

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